Board Thread:Bible Games/@comment-30611258-20161127030705/@comment-30645680-20161130222911

AChildOfGod wrote: But it goes against what you were saying about God. And God is more than an "epiphany". He is a scientific necessity, whether you like it or not. Scientists are beginning to warm to the conclusion that there is a Supreme Being. According to logic, if something begins to exist it has a cause. Many scientists - both atheists and theists - support that the universe had a beginning, so it had to have a cause. The cause had to have the ability to create the universe, but also needs to be able to have a mind of its own so that the universe would have a beginning. This is because, if the conditions for a universe were always met, the universe would have always been. Since the universe had a beginning, the conditions for a universe were not always met, so something caused the conditions to be met. The ultimate cause would have to be a conscious being, like God. Also, life itself is too complex to have come about my random chance. Nonliving complex objects that are made by humans could not have come about by random chance naturally, they have a designer. How much more so the ultimately more complex things such as life? There are no logical explanations for life to have spontaneously come about. It is even ludicrous to believe that life spontaneously came into existence. There are no logical explanations (outside the God hypothesis) for how the first cell was assembled from nonliving objects. God is not only real, but a necessity. The point is, the reason God knows people so well, is because their ego is God. God isn't a necessity. Science doesn't believe in a deity. God isn't required for science to work. If God is this beginning you speak of, then he had to have a beginning too, which is where the flaws in your logic begin. Besides, science already came up with a theory as to how the universe came to be: the Big Bang. You seem to have this idea that God had no beginning himself (another flaw in your logic) and that he's the only thing that came out of nothing. There's been life since before the concept of a God came to be. So yeah, your logic can and will be used against you.