Talk:John the Baptist

I noticed a few things in the Info box that need some support. Technically, I am sure that Judea was a 'nation' which was occupied by the Romans. Even if it is considered a Roman province (aka "state"), John would not be a Roman citizen.

As for the religion of John, "Christianity" had not been established in his lifetime. His religion was Judaism. SouthWriter (talk) 15:45, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

Re:As of the second thing I could agree with that. As of the first thing there is really a lack of clear, public documentation on that, that I was able to refer to (perhaps on the Roman Empire article we can document that and the Jewish-Roman Government relations). It does seem though that those who were Roman citizens punished by death would often be beheaded, and non-citizens would be crucified like Jesus. Paul was beheaded and Peter was crucified. So judging this perhaps John the Baptist was a roman citizen.

Thanks,

Superdadsuper, Biblicalapedia Administrator and Bureaucrat

Imagine that, I forgot to sign my remarks. THIS is the format I was missing! "Talk Pages' work a lot better than comment boxes.

Anyway, that is an interesting observation. The correlation between WHO was beheaded and who was crucified does seem to bear out your point. SouthWriter (talk) 15:45, July 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * Paul was a Roman Citizen, being born in Cilicia, of Jewish ancestry. Simon Peter was born in Judea. John the Baptist was also born in Judea. The Romans Government executed Paul and Peter according to what the Emperor ordered. John the Baptist was executed by Herod Antipas by being beheaded because his daughter wanted John's head on a platter. This doesn't necessarily mean that John was a Roman citizen, nor does the Bible claim he was.


 * Just because he was born in a Roman occupied area didn't make him a Roman citizen either. Recall the Roman centurion that told Paul he had payed a big price for his citizenship. Cilicia was Roman territory while Judea was under "direct Roman administration" (according to this Wikipedia article). If the difference is only in the wording is unknown to me, but it seems to me that those born in a Roman territory are considered Roman citizens while those born in land under Roman administration are not Roman citizens. If this is true, then John the Baptist was not a Roman citizen. A Child of God (talk) 19:37, September 27, 2016 (UTC)