Board Thread:Bible Questions/@comment-30830071-20161223171447/@comment-30830071-20170203224055

SouthWriter wrote: I&#039;m Here To Debate wrote: SouthWriter wrote: Yes, he most likely was/is a troll. I treated him with respect, offering him a chance to redeem himself from his own ignorance. Perhaps he checked the recommended pages. If so, he is truly without excuse. Ok, obviously, I wasn't here for a while. I went on a month long vacation in the Bahamas. Now getting back on topic, do ultimatums REALLY eliminate responsibility? It must be nice to take off to the Bahamas for a month!! Do not expect me to look in awe at someone as privileged to be able to spend the winter holidays in the subtropical islands. It does not change the fact that I am bound to a place much better some day.

Anyway, assuming you mean that "Be holy, even as I am holy" (God speaking) is an ultimatum, it most certainly does not eliminate responsibility. In fact, it does just the opposite. When anyone gives another person an ultimatum -- that is "Do this, or else" -- the full responsibility falls on the one being reprimanded. The consequences of not obeying are fully on the one who disobeys. The authority who issues the ultimatum would be irresponsible if the consequences did not follow the rules.

Bringing this back to the original question -- if anyone ends up in hell, it is because that is where they "want" to go based on the path they willingly take. Having heard the warning, the ultimatum, and not heeding it, brings expected results. I refer you to my original remarks. Check out the sources here at the Wiki. If we applied this logic to our judicial system, criminals would get off the hook in a snap.