Thread:Superdadsuper/@comment-24874291-20150215020503/@comment-24874291-20150309000618

@Superdadsuper

Whoa, hey, whoa. A few things... I don't see the "Tyndale Bible" on Bible Gateway.

I know KJV sometimes uses big or older terms like "principalities" (a state ruled by a prince), "sepulchre" (basically a tomb), and "compassed about me" (surrounding me), but at least it's still English. I don't think I could even Google words from the Tyndale Bible and find an answer I could understand.

There's a really big difference between being "mistranslated" and parts being missing entirely. I've done a little research and I found some very suspicious changes that the NIV made to the KJV Version.


 * Took out "through Christ". (Galations 4:7)
 * Changed "...who created all things by Jesus Christ:" to "...who created all things." (Ephesians 3:9)
 * Removed "Christ" from "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." (Phillipians 4:13)
 * Removed "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: " (Revelation 1:11)
 * Removed "which art in heaven", "Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.", "for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us.", and "but deliver us from evil." (Luke 11:2-4)
 * Nullified. Removed "For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them." (Luke 9:56)

There's a whole lot of these on http://christianitybeliefs.org/the-most-accurate-bible-translation-comparison-and-deception/ I haven't fact-checked them all, but the ones I have checked are accurate.

I really don't think "the LORD's ability to keep the Scripture the same meaning through the ages" means that EVERY Version is accurate. It would mean at least 1 English version would be accurate, but people could still taint the other versions. In fact, when Jesus was in the wilderness after fasting 40 days and 40 nights, Satan came unto him and purposely misquoted the actual verses from the Holy Bible by leaving things out. (Matthew 4:6 and Psalm 91:11-12)

There is at least one perfect version of the bible. And I don't think that version is even on Earth. It's forever settled in Heaven (and it looks like Psalm 119:89 is the verse that corresponds to that). The language it's written in probably isn't English, nor any other language we speak here today. So KJV is gonna have some quirks, and maybe even the Hebrew versions have quirks too. (I'm not an expert on the Hebrew versions though, and I haven't researched it.)

If someone really wants to, they probably have the ability to make a messed-up version of the Holy Bible. I wouldn't mess with the warning at the end of the New Testament about adding and taking away from the Holy Bible, but I bet there's some fool that would. Just don't let them fool you with that.

@Deutschlandkaiser

I actually grew up with KJV and I thought it helped my reading comprehension and helped me be better in general.

Yes, it looks like KJV and NIV call Jesus the "Morning Star" (Revelation 22:16), but NIV (and ESV -- the English Standard Version) says "...fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn!" opposed to the KJV's "...fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" (Isaiah 14:12)

NIV and ESV don't seem accurate here to me. It looks like http://www.gotquestions.org/morning-star.html tries to rationalize this (it's using the ESV). Pretty sure the part about the lions is legit though.

So if the Pages for the "Romans Road" and the "Armor of God" are a no-go, do you happen to know about any other Bible Wiki I could make it for? It would be pretty useful.

I'm not the biggest History buff (or maybe the History books were just boring) so I'm not sure where I would start with this Wiki. Most of the Pages look big and intimidating. If I could start small, I could probably work up to big things like those Pages. I'd probably learn a lot from researching, then contributing to Pages. Have any suggestions, or anything?

Now let's see how many references we've got here! :P