Thread:Superdadsuper/@comment-29039253-20160717135857/@comment-29039253-20160717192305

Superdadsuper wrote: Couldn't I say the same for your ideas about Satan? What I have to say is that there is no evidence that can disprove the Bible as a reliable source, it is accurately testified by archaelogy and other historical documents- the words it has said have been true in every application and every prophecy, and the Word all fits together and seems with no contradictions (sometimes it may seem like it but you have to anaylze the logic).

If your intent was not to argue, I do apologize. However, even if you did provide logic and facts, charged statements such as the ones you are making are not ones that should be given. I am referring to a civil discussion about the facts and not using any charged statements etc. As a presumption, as a Christian I have to use the Word of God in backing up my evidence and support for matters such as Satan. As I have told you earlier there is much evidence that supports the Bible, but only the Bible provides a source that a Christian can use to discuss Satan. We could discuss the reliability and usability of the Bible as a source some, but in the end if that is not something you can accept than we cannot debate.

The same statements you are making about the Bible can be applied to your ideas, in that there are no "photos".You are say you are providing logic, but I do not say any Bible Verses, quotes from the Bible or any specific references that convey the message that says Satan is good. Rather it seems the intent is to show God is evil, yet there are no logical references to back that up.

The thing is none us are God. The Bible describes how God allows suffering to occur for two main reasons, either as punishment for wrongdoing against Him (if God is a God of good, then doesn't there have to be justice- it would be like if I shot someone, but then everyone just let me carry on in my life with no consequence), or uses it for His good. This may be something difficult to understand, but so many times in the Bible and even the lives of those around me, horrible things end up as experiences that teach people about life and grow them closer to God.

I or the other Admin can have a debate with you sometime if you would like, but using statements such as "you're too dumb" "you're kind is paranoid" is not acceptable behavior, and it only damages your argument.

Sternly, with love- In Christ,

Superdadsuper, Bible Wiki Administrator & Bureaucrat

"What I have to say is that there is no evidence that can disprove the Bible as a reliable source" And there's no evidence that can prove it as a reliable source either.

"However, even if you did provide logic and facts, charged statements such as the ones you are making are not ones that should be given." I'm just saying, Satan isn't really all that evil when comparing his action to Yahweh's.

"As I have told you earlier there is much evidence that supports the Bible, but only the Bible provides a source that a Christian can use to discuss Satan." But the Bible rarely mentions Satan, whereas Yahweh is mentioned in pretty much the entire book.

"The same statements you are making about the Bible can be applied to your ideas, in that there are no "photos".You are say you are providing logic, but I do not say any Bible Verses, quotes from the Bible or any specific references that convey the message that says Satan is good." But all you people wanna use is the Bible. You never wanna use anything else. There's no proof in the Bible that Satan is truly evil, other than God's word, and frankly, God's word isn't worth much. He's hardly above lying and deceit.

"Rather it seems the intent is to show God is evil, yet there are no logical references to back that up." Are you saying a mass murderer is more noble than a charitable man?

"The Bible describes how God allows suffering to occur for two main reasons, either as punishment for wrongdoing against Him (if God is a God of good, then doesn't there have to be justice- it would be like if I shot someone, but then everyone just let me carry on in my life with no consequence), or uses it for His good." See, right there. That just proves how selfish the Abrahamic God is in contrast to Satan. Yahweh usually punishes those who don't deserve it.

"This may be something difficult to understand, but so many times in the Bible and even the lives of those around me, horrible things end up as experiences that teach people about life and grow them closer to God." It wouldn't hurt God to help at least once in a while, but he doesn't even do that.