Thread:The Ambiverted User/@comment-36725263-20190203223722/@comment-5175866-20190204013741

I "watched" (rather fast) the videos to get the main points. She makes some good points regarding how homosexuality may not be the key issue surrounding Sodom's wickedness.

I have a couple issues with her argument though:


 * Her point about Malakoi Arsenokotai was that it is specifically prohibitive against pedophilic homosexuality, not homosexuality in general. The problem is the meaning of the words is ambigious enough (at this point) where one can't say for certainty that it allows homosexuality in general. At the very least, if you could, one could say the passage prohibits pedophilia, but does not say- homosexuality is ok. I haven't formally studied Greek (though I will probably take a year of it in the 19-20 academic year). It seems the general levitical prohibition is a civil law, meaning it governs civil life in general, not specific to pedophilia but all forms of homosexuality.


 * There is no mention (that I was aware of) of Jesus statements on marriage or the condenmnation of natural behavior in Romans. The biblical etiology of marriage and gender is that male and female were created and tasked with reproduction . The biblical assumption is always that one man and one woman are together in marriage, on the basis of the original creation of Adam and Eve. Romans talks about how homosexuality is unnatural and an act of the flesh


 * Most importantly, it seems she is trying to accomodate popular cultural ideas and insert them into the Bible, something called eisegesis. It seems her concern is more for justifying homosexuality than it is to faithfully exposit Scripture. She is trying to create a safe haven for those who have been ostracized by the Church, but the price she pays is distorting the Bible.

If you have homosexual struggles, my goal is not to condemn you personally. I am engaging in the argument to fight for the biblical view of marriage on an intellectual level. I understand my response here is brief- but I simply don't have time to go into extreme depth (nor the expertise). I will have to point you to other organizations specifically dedicated to the issue.

I am personally sorry if you have been hated or spat upon by Christians, because of your view. Everyone, regardless of their viewpoint is a human and inherently worthy of respect and dignity. That does not mean I compromise on my viewpoints. I can be "tolerant" of other viewpoints by not hating someone over it, but I do not have to agree or treat the idea as equally valid or "relative".

Because of sin nature, Christians struggle with how to treat LGBTQ people. I personally struggle with that and to be honest, I have a hard time myself with being comfortable around people with those ideas. The reason being is that I am fallen and sinful. The other aspect is that I (and Bible believing Christians) view ideas of that vein as leading to unnatural pratices. My point is I, nor most try to treat gay and transgender people differently- it just happens.

I ask God continously for forgiveness and transformation in that area of my life so I may be more loving and less judging. Those who struggle with those types of temptation have the same opportunity to the redemptive power of Jesus who washes away sins. You can be a Christian and be "gay", but there are serious consequences to unrepentant sin that one never wants to change. Someone can struggle with that, but if they never see it as a wrong their faith can be in question. Even so, one can have a relationship with God and not believe the Bible, but it will have detrimental consequences and perhaps may be evidence of being faithless.

In Christ, Superdadsuper, Sr. Content and Community Manager (Bible Wiki) 01:37, February 4, 2019 (UTC)