Thread:Superdadsuper/@comment-14847494-20151204023742/@comment-27437373-20151230123743

SouthWriter wrote: AChildofGod wrote:

"Only someone who loves that person a lot would ever think of doing such a thing. Therer is no greater love than this: that a man lay his life for a friend."

SonsofDemons wrote:

"We're not talking about war, we're talking about everyday situations."

The context of the verse cited is talking about LIFE in general. However, it is very true that we ARE talking about war -- spiritual warfare.

 SonsofDemons wrote:

 " God created Hell, remember? Love is NOT killing yourself. If God REALLY loved us. evil wouldn't exist. "

Interesting, I don't seem to remember any mention of God "creating Hell." Like any other place in the universe, it "Hell" became that way over time and serves its purpose -- to receive those who die separated from God by their own human nature.

There is a big difference between "killing oneself" (suicide) and sacrifice (dying for others). That the Father accepted the Son as a sacrifice on behalf of those who would believe is in fact an act of extreme love.

Evil exists because free moral agents -- beginning with angels closest to God -- rebelled against the Creator Who loved them. Having chosen to live without God, they were allowed to do just that. The results have been the ruin of much of humanity over the ages. Everyone wants to do things their own way, and so, evil things happen. Forgiveness doesn't require death. War does. God created everything, remember? The only way I could see "You send yourself to Hell" making sense is if everybody in the world had a double. Jesus basically did kill himself, by letting himself get killed. Putting yourself in a deadly situation is tactical suicide. God KNEW those angels would rebel, so he shouldn't've created them in the first place. By default, God created evil.