Thread:Superdadsuper/@comment-33623809-20180211014349/@comment-5175866-20180211030041

Thank you for testing our doctrine. We believe in pleasing God first not man, but we know (as Paul says multiple times) we still have to conduct ourselves in a way to be approachable by man. This means regardless of popular opinion we will always maintain the Gospel of Christ and the perfection of Scripture.

I have never heard of "Humility enables grace" (a Google search brings to a Youtube channel called "WE OBEY JESUS), but this may be a common argument under a different name (is it based off the Youtube channel)?

Honestly, I haven't personally studied the concept of "Once Saved, Always Saved" doctrine for me to be able to fully defend and exegete to another person; I believe it myself. My partner admin SouthWriter has  studied this more than I. Scripture talks about those who have heard and believed the Gospel, then deviate from it are better off to not have known it 2 Peter 2:20-22); referring to false teachers. I do think Scripture seems to talk about those who know, but fall away into sin.

The argument (which I haven't studied enough) is the question of if one "falls from grace" were they really saved in the first place. I don;t feel qualified to answer that question, but I believe a Christian can have periods in their life where they drift farther from God rather than closer. I strongly believe that a believer's life will never be a constant moving towards God, there will always be distractions and things that pull us aside (yet you can still have Faith).

I think the major problem with the argument of the specific doctrine you gave if God elects believers (something I believe works in his providence simultaneously with free will), then someone should not be able to deviate from God's choice (otherwise he didn't really select them to have Salvation).

Be warned, if you obtained this from the Youtube channel, always be weary of those claiming direct revelation from God. I haven't studied this doctrine in particular, but it is not biblical for someone to claim an entirely new idea to intrepret Scripture in completely new way. Generally speaking, those claiming "God told me" usually have a teaching that overturns something already spoken in Scripture by God. God will not contradict himself and once Scripture was completed writing, no new doctrines were revealed by God in that manner.

There certainly can be "new teaching" I believe, but it cannot be one that contradicts Scripture or ideas debated for centuries before. I hope this idea is clear, if not let me know.

Let me know how I can help you plug into Scripture.