Thread:Superdadsuper/@comment-14847494-20151204023742/@comment-27437373-20151225035851

SouthWriter wrote: Superdadsuper wrote: If you do good things, but have no faith, your good deeds cannot justify forgiveness for the wrongdoings you have done.

SonsOfDemons wrote:

Ok, that last part is just plain dumb. Why shouldn't forgiveness be given?

The point is, the good deeds are not good enough to warrant forgiveness because the wrong doings create 'spoiled goods,' so to speak. For that reason, there is only ONE way anyone can be forgiven -- and that is a merciful judge. The Judge does not HAVE to pardon anyone, for justice demands that all things be made right. But the Judge does pardon MANY, based on His OWN acceptance of the liability.

As I have explained elsewhere, "forgiveness" is not just pretending that it doesn't matter and then forgetting it. The term is both legal and financial. When forgiveness is offered, one is taking a liability upon oneself -- being it a criminal who is set free or a debtor whose debts are wiped clean.

Bad deeds have consequences that go on for a long time. Those who recieve forgiveness can know that the Judge has taken all those consequences upon Himself. The Judge is Jesus, the Son of God. The Bible states that the consequences of the sins of all his people were laid upon Him. As the Christmas story begins in Matthew 1, the angel proclaims: "You shall call his name Jesus, for he shall save his people from their sins ."

Also, I don't think forgiveness is worth dying for. Forgiveness is easy.